Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Revision history

Keiji: /* Music changes */ sp

2013-11-15T06:40:19Z

Music changes: sp

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	Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...		Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...

-	Ice Cap Zone is the only exception to the above, however, because it has just been discovered that [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458113/ Brad Buxer] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetzons The Jetzons] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8 composed it], rather than ~~Micheal~~ Jackson. Because the song still belonged to a record-making musician though, and because the original song was still using MJ samples, it was replaced in the PC port anyway, because who wants to chance the [[secret cult of Sonic 3 musicians]] suing SEGA for damages?	+	Ice Cap Zone is the only exception to the above, however, because it has just been discovered that [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458113/ Brad Buxer] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetzons The Jetzons] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8 composed it], rather than Michael Jackson. Because the song still belonged to a record-making musician though, and because the original song was still using MJ samples, it was replaced in the PC port anyway, because who wants to chance the [[secret cult of Sonic 3 musicians]] suing SEGA for damages?

	== XBLA port ==		== XBLA port ==

Chao: /* Music changes */ Ice Cap is some pretty Hard Times yo

2013-11-11T05:14:39Z

Music changes: Ice Cap is some pretty Hard Times yo

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	Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...		Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...
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		+	Ice Cap Zone is the only exception to the above, however, because it has just been discovered that [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458113/ Brad Buxer] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetzons The Jetzons] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8 composed it], rather than Micheal Jackson. Because the song still belonged to a record-making musician though, and because the original song was still using MJ samples, it was replaced in the PC port anyway, because who wants to chance the [[secret cult of Sonic 3 musicians]] suing SEGA for damages?

	== XBLA port ==		== XBLA port ==

Keiji: +alt:freebase,wikipedia,sonicretro

2012-01-03T12:09:05Z

+alt:freebase,wikipedia,sonicretro

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-	<[#ontology [kind topic] [cats Sonic_series 2D Platformer Video_game]]>	+	<[#ontology [kind topic] [cats Sonic_series 2D Platformer Video_game] [alt [[freebase:0py9v]] [[wikipedia:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3]] [[sonicretro:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3]]]]>
	{{Selfref\|'''Sonic and Knuckles''' redirects here, because it's basically the same game anyway, so there.}}		{{Selfref\|'''Sonic and Knuckles''' redirects here, because it's basically the same game anyway, so there.}}

Keiji at 16:28, 7 October 2011

2011-10-07T16:28:38Z

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	== XBLA port ==		== XBLA port ==
	SEGA apparently still thinks Sonic 3 is worth buying twice, so they decided to release emulated versions of both it and Sonic & Knuckles separately on XBLA, with the full game available as a "bonus option" from the latter if you've bought both versions. However, they removed all the menus and the original save system, replacing it with their own inappropriately-modern menus and savestate system... which means no more Hyper Sonic in AIZ for you! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3q7w10n7I]		SEGA apparently still thinks Sonic 3 is worth buying twice, so they decided to release emulated versions of both it and Sonic & Knuckles separately on XBLA, with the full game available as a "bonus option" from the latter if you've bought both versions. However, they removed all the menus and the original save system, replacing it with their own inappropriately-modern menus and savestate system... which means no more Hyper Sonic in AIZ for you! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3q7w10n7I]
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		+	== External links ==
		+	[http://www.tiddles.org/s3c/ Sonic 3 Complete], a project to restore Sonic 3 as it was meant to be.

Keiji: /* Story */

2011-10-07T16:16:57Z

Story

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	== Story ==		== Story ==
-	One day [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and his buddy [[Tails]] randomly decide to fly to Angel Island in their airplane/super form, because they can. Unfortunately, [[Knuckles the Echidna]] makes a [[Dig\|sneaky underground attack]] against the blue blur and steals his [[Marisa\|precious]] [[Chaos Emeralds]] (which he shouldn't have been holding in the first place). Knuckles has a good [[LOL\|laugh]], and then he [[run away\|makes his get away]], thus prompting Sonic and Tails to give chase. Mysteriously, this scene doesn't happen when you play as Knuckles. Anyway, you soon realize [[Dr. Eggman]] is also involved in some [[Nohoho\|shady business]], what with his burning down jungles and bombing stuff with his Flying... Battery? (Well, it's better than a [[Accord\|Flying can]], at least) Sonic continues to hunt down his obese nemesis through a variety of Angel Island locales, until he arrives at the Launch Base and learns of his sinister plan to relaunch the Death <s>Star</s> Egg back into orbit and take over the world. Eggman [[fail]]s as usually though, and his Death Egg falls into a dormant volcano. However, Eggman is desperate, so he continues his antics by distracting Sonic with more random deforestation. Finally, Eggman plays Knuckles for a [[dope]] and steals his [[Master Emerald]] and launches the Death Egg. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are all pretty fed up with Eggman's antics by now though, so Sonic and Tails take to the Death Egg to teach the "good" doctor a lesson while Knuckles gets left behind with an evil Metal Sonic lookalike, who also wants the Master Emerald ([[Mind Screw\|which somehow was never stolen to begin with?]]). Eggman is still desperate after his [[Malicious Fingers]] get broken, so Super Sonic has to save the day for the first time, setting the now abused "tradition" of (anti-)~~climactic~~ Super Sonic boss fights. [[Happy End]]!	+	One day [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and his buddy [[Tails]] randomly decide to fly to Angel Island in their airplane/super form, because they can. Unfortunately, [[Knuckles the Echidna]] makes a [[Dig\|sneaky underground attack]] against the blue blur and steals his [[Marisa\|precious]] [[Chaos Emeralds]] (which he shouldn't have been holding in the first place). Knuckles has a good [[LOL\|laugh]], and then he [[run away\|makes his get away]], thus prompting Sonic and Tails to give chase. Mysteriously, this scene doesn't happen when you play as Knuckles. Anyway, you soon realize [[Dr. Eggman]] is also involved in some [[Nohoho\|shady business]], what with his burning down jungles and bombing stuff with his Flying... Battery? (Well, it's better than a [[Accord\|Flying can]], at least) Sonic continues to hunt down his obese nemesis through a variety of Angel Island locales, until he arrives at the Launch Base and learns of his sinister plan to relaunch the Death <s>Star</s> Egg back into orbit and take over the world. Eggman [[fail]]s as usually though, and his Death Egg falls into a dormant volcano. However, Eggman is desperate, so he continues his antics by distracting Sonic with more random deforestation. Finally, Eggman plays Knuckles for a [[dope]] and steals his [[Master Emerald]] and launches the Death Egg. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are all pretty fed up with Eggman's antics by now though, so Sonic and Tails take to the Death Egg to teach the "good" doctor a lesson while Knuckles gets left behind with an evil Metal Sonic lookalike, who also wants the Master Emerald ([[Mind Screw\|which somehow was never stolen to begin with?]]). Eggman is still desperate after his [[Malicious Fingers]] get broken, so Super Sonic has to save the day for the first time, setting the now abused "tradition" of (anti-)climatic Super Sonic boss fights. [[Happy End]]!

	== Characters ==		== Characters ==

Keiji at 15:58, 7 October 2011

2011-10-07T15:58:24Z

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	{{Selfref\|'''Sonic and Knuckles''' redirects here, because it's basically the same game anyway, so there.}}		{{Selfref\|'''Sonic and Knuckles''' redirects here, because it's basically the same game anyway, so there.}}

-	'''Sonic the Hedgehog 3''', ~~who's~~ second half is known as '''Sonic & Knuckles''', is the [[Number:3\|third]] (fourth if [[Sonic CD]] is included) installment of the [[Sonic series\|Sonic the Hedgehog series]]. It is full of much [[win]], and even the [[Sonic Fandom\|idiots]] argue whether it's the best Sonic game ever. It's well known for it's graphical advancements (which includes the use of several graphical illusions and tricks), 3 playable characters, two player competition mode, and musical score partly by none other than [[Michael Jackson]]. It is also the most massive [[2D]] Sonic game to date, with [[14]] [[Chaos Emerald]]s to collect, 13 massive zones, and a boss at the end of ''every'' act. Because it is so massive, it's also the first Sonic game to let you save your progress, which is [[epic]] even though it doesn't save which act of the zone you were in. It also had to be split into two parts because they ran out of time finishing the huge game, with the two halves' releases apart by a little more than a year. The Knuckles half, unfortunately, does not let you save unless you use [[Lock-On Technology™]] to merge it back with Sonic 3.	+	'''Sonic the Hedgehog 3''', whose second half is known as '''Sonic & Knuckles''', is the [[Number:3\|third]] (fourth if [[Sonic CD]] is included) installment of the [[Sonic series\|Sonic the Hedgehog series]]. It is full of much [[win]], and even the [[Sonic Fandom\|idiots]] argue whether it's the best Sonic game ever. It's well known for it's graphical advancements (which includes the use of several graphical illusions and tricks), 3 playable characters, two player competition mode, and musical score partly by none other than [[Michael Jackson]]. It is also the most massive [[2D]] Sonic game to date, with [[14]] [[Chaos Emerald]]s to collect, 13 massive zones, and a boss at the end of ''every'' act. Because it is so massive, it's also the first Sonic game to let you save your progress, which is [[epic]] even though it doesn't save which act of the zone you were in. It also had to be split into two parts because they ran out of time finishing the huge game, with the two halves' releases apart by a little more than a year. The Knuckles half, unfortunately, does not let you save unless you use [[Lock-On Technology™]] to merge it back with Sonic 3.

	== Story ==		== Story ==

Keiji: /* Characters */

2011-09-13T11:46:59Z

Characters

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	== Characters ==		== Characters ==
	*[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]		*[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]
-	*[[~~Tails~~]]	+	*[[Miles “Tails” Prower]]
	*[[Knuckles the Echidna]]		*[[Knuckles the Echidna]]
	*[[Dr. Eggman]]		*[[Dr. Eggman]]

Keiji at 08:49, 31 August 2011

2011-08-31T08:49:32Z

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	Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...		Sonic & Knuckles Collection, for PC, was a standalone release and unable to take any data from any cartridges the player might happen to own. Thus, in this version of the game, all of MJ's music had to be replaced, hence the S&KC-specific compositions. Interestingly, the "Unused Theme" in the PC OST, which lies right between the Competition Menu and Save Game Menu tracks, takes the place the S3 mid-boss theme would have done, even though this track would never need to be used in S&KC. The most likely explanation here is that SEGA simply told their composers to replace every track worked on by MJ regardless of whether or not it was necessary, which would include this one. Not that it sounds anything like a mid-boss theme should...
		+
		+	== XBLA port ==
		+	SEGA apparently still thinks Sonic 3 is worth buying twice, so they decided to release emulated versions of both it and Sonic & Knuckles separately on XBLA, with the full game available as a "bonus option" from the latter if you've bought both versions. However, they removed all the menus and the original save system, replacing it with their own inappropriately-modern menus and savestate system... which means no more Hyper Sonic in AIZ for you! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3q7w10n7I]

Keiji: /* Characters */

2011-08-31T00:18:05Z

Characters

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	*[[Dr. Eggman]]		*[[Dr. Eggman]]
	*Mecha Sonic		*Mecha Sonic
-	*[[~~Egg Robo~~]]	+	*[[Eggrobo]]

	== Zones ==		== Zones ==

Keiji: /* Story */

2011-08-31T00:16:18Z

Story

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	== Story ==		== Story ==
-	One day [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and his buddy [[Tails]] randomly decide to fly to Angel Island in their airplane/super form, because they can. Unfortunately, [[Knuckles the Echidna]] makes a [[Dig\|sneaky underground attack]] against the blue blur and steals his [[Marisa\|precious]] [[Chaos Emeralds]] (which he shouldn't have been holding in the first place). Knuckles has a good [[LOL\|laugh]], and then he [[run away\|makes his get away]], thus prompting Sonic and Tails to give chase. Mysteriously, this scene doesn't happen when you play as Knuckles. Anyway, you soon realize [[Dr. Eggman]] is also involved in some [[Nohoho\|shady business]], what with his burning down jungles and bombing stuff with his Flying... Battery? (Well, it's better than a [[Accord\|Flying can]], at least) Sonic continues to hunt down his ~~obesse~~ nemesis through a variety of Angel Island locales, until he arrives at the Launch Base and learns of his sinister plan to relaunch the Death <s>Star</s> Egg back into orbit and take over the world. Eggman [[fail]]s as usually though, and his Death Egg falls into a dormant volcano. However, Eggman is desperate, so he continues his antics by distracting Sonic with more random deforestation. Finally, Eggman plays Knuckles for a [[dope]] and steals his [[Master Emerald]] and launches the Death Egg. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are all pretty fed up with Eggman's ~~shit~~ by now though, so Sonic and Tails take to the Death Egg to teach the "good" doctor a lesson while Knuckles gets left behind with an evil Metal Sonic ~~look-alike~~, who also wants the Master Emerald ([[Mind Screw\|which somehow was never stolen to begin with?]]). Eggman is still desperate after his [[Malicious Fingers]] get broken, so Super Sonic has to save the day for the first time, setting the now abused "tradition" of (anti-)climactic Super Sonic boss fights. [[Happy End]]!	+	One day [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] and his buddy [[Tails]] randomly decide to fly to Angel Island in their airplane/super form, because they can. Unfortunately, [[Knuckles the Echidna]] makes a [[Dig\|sneaky underground attack]] against the blue blur and steals his [[Marisa\|precious]] [[Chaos Emeralds]] (which he shouldn't have been holding in the first place). Knuckles has a good [[LOL\|laugh]], and then he [[run away\|makes his get away]], thus prompting Sonic and Tails to give chase. Mysteriously, this scene doesn't happen when you play as Knuckles. Anyway, you soon realize [[Dr. Eggman]] is also involved in some [[Nohoho\|shady business]], what with his burning down jungles and bombing stuff with his Flying... Battery? (Well, it's better than a [[Accord\|Flying can]], at least) Sonic continues to hunt down his obese nemesis through a variety of Angel Island locales, until he arrives at the Launch Base and learns of his sinister plan to relaunch the Death <s>Star</s> Egg back into orbit and take over the world. Eggman [[fail]]s as usually though, and his Death Egg falls into a dormant volcano. However, Eggman is desperate, so he continues his antics by distracting Sonic with more random deforestation. Finally, Eggman plays Knuckles for a [[dope]] and steals his [[Master Emerald]] and launches the Death Egg. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are all pretty fed up with Eggman's antics by now though, so Sonic and Tails take to the Death Egg to teach the "good" doctor a lesson while Knuckles gets left behind with an evil Metal Sonic lookalike, who also wants the Master Emerald ([[Mind Screw\|which somehow was never stolen to begin with?]]). Eggman is still desperate after his [[Malicious Fingers]] get broken, so Super Sonic has to save the day for the first time, setting the now abused "tradition" of (anti-)climactic Super Sonic boss fights. [[Happy End]]!

	== Characters ==		== Characters ==