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Keiji: Slightly improved translation

2014-01-02T21:57:11Z

Slightly improved translation

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	●Because of love		●Because of love
	真魔導設定での『魔導物語』の時代から五千年前……		真魔導設定での『魔導物語』の時代から五千年前……
-	~~Five thousand years before the era of~~ the True Magic ~~setting of Madou Monogatari~~...	+	In the True Magic novel, it was five thousand years ago...
	『ぷよぷよ』からは六千年前のこと。		『ぷよぷよ』からは六千年前のこと。
-	~~Six~~ thousand years ~~before Puyo Puyo~~ (?~~?? that can't be right!~~)	+	In Puyo Puyo, it was six thousand years ago. (?)
	ガイアースは文明の頂点に達し、滅亡の危機を迎えていた。		ガイアースは文明の頂点に達し、滅亡の危機を迎えていた。
	Gaias had reached the pinnacle of civilization, but was facing extinction.		Gaias had reached the pinnacle of civilization, but was facing extinction.
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	The Planetary Gods of Gaias, the three gods and two goddesses		The Planetary Gods of Gaias, the three gods and two goddesses
	who were responsible for this star,		who were responsible for this star,
-	~~had been attempting~~ to ~~destroy~~ the world ~~in accordance with standard procedure~~	+	were about to perform the ritual of destroying and recreating the world.
-	~~(to shed the planet)~~.	+
	しかし、五人の神のうちの一人・エルドラは、真っ向からそれに反対した。		しかし、五人の神のうちの一人・エルドラは、真っ向からそれに反対した。
	However, one of the five - Eldora - was outright opposed to it.		However, one of the five - Eldora - was outright opposed to it.
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	「We do not have the right to control the life and death of humans」, was her argument.		「We do not have the right to control the life and death of humans」, was her argument.
	彼女を愛する二人の男神（オメガ、ウェザ）がこれに賛同し、三対二で計画は失敗した。		彼女を愛する二人の男神（オメガ、ウェザ）がこれに賛同し、三対二で計画は失敗した。
-	~~Her two lovers,~~ Omega and Weather~~, agree to this~~,	+	Two of the male gods - Omega and Weather - were in love with Eldora so they agreed with her,
	and the plan was thrown out by the majority vote of three against two.		and the plan was thrown out by the majority vote of three against two.
	この罰を受けて男神らは消され、エルドラはただ一人、大半の力を失ったままでガイアースを見守っていくこととなった。		この罰を受けて男神らは消され、エルドラはただ一人、大半の力を失ったままでガイアースを見守っていくこととなった。

Keiji: Yes, that makes a lot more sense, let's just go with that.

2012-02-14T17:04:56Z

Yes, that makes a lot more sense, let's just go with that.

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	since 「time」 is now only one of Eldora's powers.		since 「time」 is now only one of Eldora's powers.
	そう考えると、異世界の守護女神たるエルドラが、魔導世界で信仰される時の女神であっても　おかしくはないのかもしれない。		そう考えると、異世界の守護女神たるエルドラが、魔導世界で信仰される時の女神であっても　おかしくはないのかもしれない。
-	As Eldora is the goddess of faith in the ~~Madou~~ world,	+	As Eldora was the goddess of faith in the world
		+	which was [Lagnus' home, i.e. the one that got destroyed],
	you shouldn't think that Eldora is the patron goddess of a different one.		you shouldn't think that Eldora is the patron goddess of a different one.
-	~~[This line is the only line to actually say Madou world not Puyo world.~~
-	~~I need to check with Chao if this might mean the Madou Monogatari games' world,~~
-	~~as opposed to the pre-Fever Puyo games' world. I thought they were the same...~~
-	~~After further reading, maybe it's referring to the world the Youggs destroyed?]~~
	しかし……。		しかし……。
	However...		However...
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	こんなに信仰されている女神が、実際は異世界の守護女神……		こんなに信仰されている女神が、実際は異世界の守護女神……
	So much faith placed in the goddess, when she is actually the guardian of		So much faith placed in the goddess, when she is actually the guardian of
-	a different world.	+	a different world [that no longer exists].
-	[~~I don't really understand this bit;~~	+
-	~~it is the type (time vs faith?) not the world~~ that ~~is different~~.~~..]~~	+
	というのは、やはりあんまりだ、という気がする。		というのは、やはりあんまりだ、という気がする。
	This is because she had still said too much.		This is because she had still said too much.

Keiji: add

2012-02-14T17:03:05Z

add

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	彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。		彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。
-	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where [[Lagnus]] came from.	+	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, [and was also a goddess of]
-	~~[And presumably later on Lagnus was transported to the/a Madou world.]~~	+	the world where [[Lagnus]] came from.
	神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。		神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。
	She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated		She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated
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	[This line is the only line to actually say Madou world not Puyo world.		[This line is the only line to actually say Madou world not Puyo world.
	I need to check with Chao if this might mean the Madou Monogatari games' world,		I need to check with Chao if this might mean the Madou Monogatari games' world,
-	as opposed to the pre-Fever Puyo games' world. I thought they were the same...]	+	as opposed to the pre-Fever Puyo games' world. I thought they were the same...
		+	After further reading, maybe it's referring to the world the Youggs destroyed?]
	しかし……。		しかし……。
	However...		However...

Keiji: blargh

2012-02-14T16:35:35Z

blargh

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	彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。		彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。
-	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where Lagnus was ~~born~~.	+	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where [[Lagnus]] came from.
		+	[And presumably later on Lagnus was transported to the/a Madou world.]
	神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。		神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。
	She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated		She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated

Keiji: fix

2012-02-14T16:34:52Z

fix

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	彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。		彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。
-	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where Lagnus ~~resides~~.	+	She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where Lagnus was born.
	神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。		神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。
	She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated		She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated

Keiji: note

2012-02-14T16:29:44Z

note

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	As Eldora is the goddess of faith in the Madou world,		As Eldora is the goddess of faith in the Madou world,
	you shouldn't think that Eldora is the patron goddess of a different one.		you shouldn't think that Eldora is the patron goddess of a different one.
		+	[This line is the only line to actually say Madou world not Puyo world.
		+	I need to check with Chao if this might mean the Madou Monogatari games' world,
		+	as opposed to the pre-Fever Puyo games' world. I thought they were the same...]
	しかし……。		しかし……。
	However...		However...

Keiji: done!

2012-02-14T16:17:13Z

done!

Show changes

Keiji: incomplete, but already sheds a lot of light on the story!

2012-02-14T13:01:11Z

incomplete, but already sheds a lot of light on the story!

New page

''from http://suwa3.web.fc2.com/data-kan/db/guest/eldora.html''

Gender
Female
Height
Unknown
Weight
Unknown
Three sizes
Unknown
Age
Unknown. At least six thousand years old
Birthday
Unknown
General introduction
異世界ガイアースを守護する惑星神。
The planetary god who protects the world of Gaias.
時間と空間、そして生命を司る。
She governs time, space and life.

彼女は厳密には『魔導物語』のキャラクターではない。
Strictly speaking, she does not appear as a character in Madou Monogatari.
ぷよぷよ外伝と銘打たれた『ぷよウォーズ』に登場し、小説『真魔導』では名前のみが現れる。
While she appears in Puyo Puyo Gaiden: Puyo Wars,
the only appearances in the True Magic novel are the names.
つまりは真魔導設定の、しかも傍流のキャラクターだ。
That is what the True Magic setting is concerned with,
but this page is about the spin off. (?)

彼女はラグナスの世界、惑星ガイアースの女神である。
She is a planetary goddess of Gaias, the world where Lagnus resides.
神託を下して十五歳のラグナスを「勇者」に指名した女神こそが彼女なのだ。
She declared Lagnus a hero when he was fifteen years old, after he defeated
an oracle (?).

本来、ガイアースは彼女を含めた五人の神々（惑星神）によって管理されていた。
Originally, Gaias was watched over by the five planetary gods, of which she was one.
彼らの上位にカノンという神（全能神）がおり、彼らはカノンの命を受けて働く下級神（天使？）だったらしい。
The almighty god had called out Kanon over them, and they served under Kanon as
what seem to be junior gods (angels?).
この仕事に成功すれば、彼らも昇格して自分の[宇宙][リド]を持つ神になれる……はずだったのであるが。
If they succeeded in their efforts, and they were promoted, they would become
the God of a universe of their own... Or at least, that was the intention.

●愛したゆえに
●Because of love
　真魔導設定での『魔導物語』の時代から五千年前……
Five thousand years before the era of the True Magic setting of Madou Monogatari...
　『ぷよぷよ』からは六千年前のこと。
Six thousand years before Puyo Puyo (??? Puyo was 1,000 years after Madou? that can't be right!)
　ガイアースは文明の頂点に達し、滅亡の危機を迎えていた。
Gaias had reached the pinnacle of civilization, but was facing extinction.
　この星を担当していた男神三人・女神二人の五人の惑星神は、
通例に従って世界を滅ぼす（惑星を脱皮させる）処置を行おうとしていた。
The Planetary Gods of Gaias, the three gods and two goddesses
who were responsible for this star,
had been attempting to destroy the world in accordance with standard procedure
(to shed the planet).
　しかし、五人の神のうちの一人・エルドラは、真っ向からそれに反対した。
However, one of the five - Eldora - was outright opposed to it.
　人間の生殺与奪権は自分たちにはない、と言うのだ。
「We do not have the right to control the life and death of humans」, was her argument.
　彼女を愛する二人の男神（オメガ、ウェザ）がこれに賛同し、三対二で計画は失敗した。
Her two lovers (? this may be "the two people she loves" instead), Omega and Weather, agree to this,
and the plan was thrown out by the majority vote of three against two.
　この罰を受けて男神らは消され、エルドラはただ一人、大半の力を失ったままでガイアースを見守っていくこととなった。
After the male gods received the punishment of erasure,
Eldora is the only one to watch as Gaias lost the majority's power.
　（何故　首謀者たるエルドラのみ消されなかったのかは全く説明されていない。）
(Why Eldora was not also punished is not explained at all.) (???)
　しかし、それは彼女にとって必ずしも辛い罰ではなかったようだ。
However, it seems the punishment [of Omega and Weather]
was not necessarily painful for her [Eldora].
　彼女はガイアースとそこに住む人間を愛していた。
She loves Gaias and the people living there.
　よって、後にカノンに許され昇格の権利をもらった時も、このままガイアースを見守り続ける道を選んだのである。
Therefore, even after Kanon gave her the right to promotion,
she continued to watch over Gaias.

More to come...